THE CHALLENGE OF CHANGE

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June 2009

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DAILY QUOTE

 

Truth is not of the past or of the present - it is timeless.

There is no path to truth and there are not two truths. Truth is not of the past or of the present - it is timeless - and the man who quotes the truth of the Buddha, of Shankara, of the Christ, or who merely repeats what I am saying, will not find truth because repetition is not truth: repetition is a lie. Truth is a state of being which arises when the mind - which seeks to divide, to be exclusive, which can only think in terms of results, of achievement - has come to an end. Only then will there be truth. The mind that is making effort, disciplining itself in order to achieve an end, cannot know truth because the end is its own projection and the pursuit of the projection, however noble, is a form of self-worship....He alone shall know truth who is not seeking, who is not striving, who is not trying to achieve a result.

J. Krishnamurti

Collected Works, Vol. VI – 134


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IN THIS ISSUE

NEW SATURDAY EVENING DIALOGUE SERIES STARTS JUNE 6TH
The next weekly series of dialogues will be on Saturday nights, from 7 to 9 pm, starting June 6th.  If you’re living too far away to drive home afterwards, consider staying the night at the newly renovated Oak Grove Retreat (rate includes the Saturday night dialogue). 

KRISHNAMURTI ON HARMONY

Excerpt from “Discussions With Krishnamurti In Europe 1966 (Authentic Report) Rome-Saanen”

 

OAK GROVE SCHOOL GETS READY FOR GRADUATION

Another 12th grade graduating class of 14 seniors explores the nature of change.

THE OAK GROVE RETREAT: ALMOST HEAVENLY DURING THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND JULY

The cooling ocean breezes provide just the right amount of moisture for the Ojai Valley to be lush, verdant and full of the joys of early summer.

SUMMER PROGRAMS AT THE KRISHNAMURTI EDUCATION CENTER
There's still time to sign up for intensive summer programs that combine study, personal reflection, dialogue interaction, and the beauty of the surrounding orchards and mountains.  

CALENDAR OF EVENTS
Save the dates for some important programs at the new Krishnamurti Education Center.

THE NEXT EVENT AT THE KRISHNAMURTI EDUCATION CENTER IN OJAI

 

Saturdays, June 6 through 27, 2009, from 7 to 9 pmDialogue Grop
Krishnamurti Dialogue Series - “Spontaneity: is it possible to have a spontaneous and meaningful dialogue?”  Can we be looking inside and relating outside at the same time, both sharing with others and learning inwardly? 

John Duncan will host a series of four weekly dialogue meetings on Saturday evenings, June 6 - 27, from 7 pm to 9 pm. Donation: $7 per meeting.  Location: Krishnamurti Education Center, 1098 McAndrew Road, Ojai.  Call 646-2390, or visit www.kfa.org

TIME OUT?
Retreat RoomIf you’re living too far away to drive home afterwards, consider staying the night at the newly renovated Oak Grove Retreat (rate includes the Saturday night dialogue). We hope people will increasingly take advantage of the peaceful atmosphere of the Retreat, the beauty of the surrounding countryside and mountains, and the advantage of meeting with each other for a dialogue, set in Krishnamurti’s former home in Pine Cottage, next door to the Retreat. Just one or two nights out of the momentum of daily living can be very restorative. To see photos of the grounds and rooms, visit www.oakgroveretreat.com

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KRISHNAMURTI ON HARMONY

Excerpt from “Discussions With Krishnamurti In Europe 1966 (Authentic Report) Rome-Saanen”
Fourth Dialogue in Saanen, 1966


Krishnamurti: You say that the more we know, the more harmony there will be. We know a great deal. We have lived for two million years. There have been fifteen thousand wars in the last few thousand years, yet we know we mustn't kill each other. We know how ridiculous it is to divide ourselves into French, German, English, whatever it is. We also know how to K at Pine Cottageinvent new gadgets and go to the moon. We know so much, and yet we are not harmonious.


Look at your problem. You are confused. Don't invent that there is harmony, that angels hover over you to protect you. You know, the circus. If you cut out all that, as you must, you're faced with the fact that the scientist creates disharmony; the politician, you in your office, the businessman, the army, the navy, the flier - everyone is adding, adding, adding to it, each contradicting the other, each saying that you must do this and you must not do that. There have been Mussolinis, Hitlers, Churchills, all telling us what to do. You know all this. What will you do? Will you invent some more beliefs, join some more organizations, follow a new leader? If you are aware, what will you do?


Comment: I will throw the whole lot overboard and get on with my own life.


Krishnamurti: Your own life is related to every other life; you can't just throw them all overboard.
I see clearly the futility of analysis. I see that it is absurd to try to discover the cause. I know what the causes are: my fear, my demand for protection, the beliefs which I have - my country is bigger, nobler than your country, my leader is more perfect than your leader, there is only one savior, and there is only one God - fighting, fighting, fighting. I'm part of it all. My right hand does something which my left hand doesn't know, and my left hand does something which my right hand doesn't know, like the scientists, like the politicians, like the priests, because they all have beliefs. They start from a conclusion. I see all of this, of which I am a part; and I also see it is a waste of time to analyze through the symptoms. Therefore I say to myself, ``What am I to do?''


I have been through all this rigmarole. Personally I haven't, but I have seen people go from one church to another, from politics to no-politics, to communism and then get rid of communism - through one mess after another, through life for forty years. Is there a different way of approach? Is there a different way of looking at all this, a way which is total, not fragmentary? All thinking is fragmentary: my country, my God opposed to your God. Thinking in any form must be fragmentary. I have looked at everything in fragments: God in heaven, hell on earth; businessmen making money, concerned with new buildings, and destroying Vietnam; organized religions seeking power, position, converting more people to make the religions more popular; people starving, and people dividing themselves into countries, into races. All that is fragmentary. I say to myself, "That is not the way to understand confusion - through fragments.'' Thought cannot resolve the confusion because thought has bred confusion.


Comment: My thoughts are the opposite of my feelings.

 

Krishnamurti: Don't say that thoughts are the opposite of feelings; feelings are a part of your thoughts. We can't separate Krishnamurtithem. We seem unable to look at anything totally. We look at things fragmentarily; we consider things through thought; and thought in essence breeds confusion. The real function of any politician or any human being is to bring about the unity of mankind, not English mankind or French or German, but the whole of mankind; not the East and the West and the South and the North. These are the inventions of a mind which is fragmentary, and this fragmentation is the result of thinking. Thinking in itself is fragmentary and will not solve this problem. When it tries to resolve the problem, thought will only create more fragments which will create more confusion.


Can you look at this whole problem: the church and the religions talking about goodness, God; the businessman, the scientist breeding children and then sending them to war, destroying their own flesh and blood? Can you throw all that overboard, all of it, not through thinking, not because someone tells you to do it? You see that thinking has produced the contradictions, the divisions, the confusion, and so you say, "Out! I don't belong to anything. I do not commit myself to anything.'' Are you in that position? Can you honestly say that you are not committed to anything, to any formula, to any religion, to any priest, the priests not only in Rome, in Canterbury, or in Banaras, but in Moscow or in the Labor Party? (Laughter) They're all priests. You are committed to your family, to your country, to a particular form of belief, to a particular pleasure. Even though pleasure breeds pain, you still go on. You don't say, "This problem cannot be solved through fragmentary thinking at all.'' Since all thinking is fragmentary, what thought has created as the country, the religion, the god, the priest, the king, the queen must all go out! That's the greatest revolution. Can you put away all that completely, without effort, because you see that it produces conflict; it's poison and you don't touch it?


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OAK GROVE SCHOOL GETS READY FOR GRADUATION

This time of year brings a lot of transition to everyone on campus.  Particularly, our 12th grade students are getting ready for the next step of exploring life.  You can read some of their comments below. Cold Night Camping

 

Stepping Into The Gap

Although it is a time for celebrating, Oak Grove School must still pay attention to covering the customary gap of 15% to 20% that most private schools face in their operating funds.  That's where donors who resonate with the school's founder, purpose, and day-to-day living and learning can make a very large impact.

 

If you are a champion of the school through your annual donation, or if you just want to lend a hand, consider making a gift now, no matter what the size.  Your generosity will help Oak Grove meet its challenges, retain students who need financial help to stay the course, especially now, and will help prepare the campus and its faculty over the summer months so next year starts strong.

 

You can give in a number of ways, from making a monthly donation in any amount, to sponsoring a scholarship program with a larger gift, to giving your old vehicle as a donation.  Oak Grove needs the help to close that gap!

 

Monthly donation:  Here's the link to the Oak Grove School donations page, with a monthly giving option, perhaps the easiest way to make a difference.  A donation of just $15 a month is $180 for the year.  If everyone who cared about the school could do that, our financial challenges would shrink drastically! Click HERE.

 

Freshman StudentStudent sponsorship donation: The school has a very generous financial aid policy, but must spread available funds carefully.  Some students really do need a mentor who can bridge the gap where financial aid leaves off and what a few struggling families are facing.  Can you make an annual gift to the Oak Grove Scholarship Fund? Take just a few moments, and make a huge difference to a child's life, click HERE.

 

Donate your vehicle to Oak Grove School: Oak Grove School can now accept your old vehicle as a donation, wherever you live in the United States.  You get the tax deduction and Oak Grove gets a monetary contribution.  Find out more by clicking HERE.

 

To read the latest edition of Oak Notes (quarterly news about the schools, its programs, students and daily life), click HERE.

 

 

Class of 2009

Here's a quick flashcard on the wonderful students graduating this year, each one radiating out with confidence, courage and lively intelligence.

Seniors class of '09

GABE CASTANON is heading to Wesleyan University, in Middletown, Connecticut. “The most important thing that I will take from OGS is the ability to treat all people, as I would want to be treated.”


CHLOE DAUTCH will be attending Middlebury College, in Middlebury, Vermont. “My time at Oak Grove has been exploratory, invigorating, amusing, fascinating and comprehensive.”


MATTHEW GOLDSTEIN is heading to Austin College in the fall. “Oak Grove has given me an interesting and valuable experience.”


SAMUEL COHEN is off to Santa Barbara City College in the Fall. “Oak Grove School has shaped me into the person that I am today and has brought me so many loving and caring friends.”


GIGIE HALL is getting ready to travel within the US and abroad and then will attend UC Berkeley. “I will take with me the ability to truly think independently, live creatively. I will take passion, and I will take with me the knowledge that the mind has no limitations.”


ALEX HEATH is University of Denver bound to study photography and humanities. “The relationships I have formed here have truly influenced my ability to form my own worldview, to be accepting of others and to expand my interests and beliefs by immersing myself in new cultures.”


ELIZABETH HERRING will be attending Franklin College in Lugano Switzerland. “Something from OGS that I will take with me is the ability to meet challenges with an open mind. I will leave Oak Grove with the ability to think critically, converse with and question my teachers and peers, and the desire to expand and explore my academic and extracurricular passions.”


ALLISON JUNOD is going to Cal Arts in the fall. “I will leave Oak Grove with the hope that it can keep helping people to get closer to finding who they are and help people grow, like it did for me.”


TYLER MORNEY is going to study Graphic Design at Otis College of Art and Design. “Oak Grove was everything I’d always been searching for, it helped me to grow into the strong and confident person I exude today. Speaking from the heart and listening from the heart, I’ve realized that a healthy conversation can truly do wonders.”


AARON PEDICORD will be attending Humboldt College.


FELIX PENNY will be recording his first album, traveling to Europe and India. “Something that I will take from Oak Grove is the ability to have an open mind and the ability to communicate with diverse groups of people.”


HANK JACKSON is off to San Francisco State University. “My experience at Oak Grove has been wonderful and enlightening. Something I will leave behind is my gratitude toward all the school.”


JEFFREY REESER will be attending the University of Southern California majoring in Theater. “Being in such a small group of people, when learning, traveling and having fun, it is easy to study and reflect on group dynamics and human behavior, as well as be introspective, giving me a unique perspective.”


STUART WINECOFF will be attending New York University. “OGS has allowed me to cultivate intelligence, understanding, strength, curiosity, self-assurance, and passion that stretch beyond the classroom and into my everyday life.”


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THE OAK GROVE RETREAT: ALMOST HEAVENLY DURING THE MONTHS OF JUNE AND JULY
Visit www.oakgroveretreat.com

 

The Ojai Valley enjoys superb weather most of the year.  Some like it hot ... so August/September are the warm months.  May through July, is a wonderful time of transition from spring to summer, and June is blessed with moisture laden Ojai Farmer's Marketon-shore breezes coming up the Valley from the nearby Pacific Ocean.  Morning mists dispel by noon into summer sunshine, the fruit trees are laden, and the Sunday Farmers' Market is bursting with tantalizing produce, flowers, honey, local cheeses and breads, and fresh laid eggs.

Just a few minutes drive from downtown Ojai, the newly renovated Oak Grove Retreat offers nine guest rooms, each with bath, wireless and air-conditioning, and complimentary continental breakfast in the mornings. The peaceful gardens and patios are much as Krishnamurti enjoyed them decades ago, while the common room amenities give guests a chance to meet each other, enjoy tea or coffee, or plan a hike through the orchards up to the mountain trails.


Walkway from Retreat to Library

For those wishing to dig into the wealth of Krishnamurti's published work, the Krishnamurti Library is located just a two minute walk from the Retreat.  Open Thursday through Sunday, from 1pm to 5pm, visitors are welcome to browse the Library in the Great Room, make a purchase from the book store, or simply sit in the Quiet Room (Krishnamurti's former living quarters). The atmosphere is pervasive, with serene views of the surrounding mountains and orchards, and a sense of the edge of the human domain as Ojai's East End transitions into wilderness, marked by the impressive bluffs of the Topa Topa mountain range.

 

 

Special Rates for Seniors, Groups, Long-term Stays

We'd like more people to find out about the Oak Grove Retreat, so feel free to pass along the web address, the special rates information, or take advantage of it yourself.


Shared Room: Individual guests may rent their own room (above) or stay at the retreat in a shared room--dormitory-style--with two or three single beds in a room and a shared bathroom. The reduced rate is $75 per day, Sunday - Thursday, $95 Friday and Saturday.


Seniors: An optional senior discount of 10% is available on request for those who qualify (age 65+). Should you not need Comfortable Roomsto pay a reduced rate, your full-price payment will greatly help us to develop the Oak Grove Retreat to its full potential. This discount may not be combined with any other discount. To review all rooms and prices, visit www.oakgroveretreat.com.

 

Extended Stays: Please call Oak Grove Retreat for special weekly and monthly rates: 877.355.5986.

 

Group Rentals: Oak Grove Retreat may be rented by groups wishing to hold a group retreat, workshop, class or event. Room and facility pricing is determined by the size of group and use of the facilities. Please call 877.355.5986 for information and price quotes.

 

You can take a virtual tour of the rooms, or make a reservation, at www.oakgroveretreat.com.  Or call 877-355-5986 for more information.

 

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SUMMER PROGRAMS AT THE KRISHNAMURTI EDUCATION CENTER
Are you, or do you know, a new or experienced school teacher who would like to explore Krishnamurti's wok on "a revolutionary" education?  Perhaps you're a college student or anyone at all looking for a way to slow the momentum while you consider your next step.  If you are interested in the dialogue process, combined with readings and videos, there is a retreat style intensive at the Krishnamurti Education Center during the summer months.

 

Here's a quick look at upcoming summer intensives:

 

July 8th - July 16th
The Awakening of Intelligence and the Birth of Insight  
A nine-day residential dialogue program for college students and adults.  Facilitated by Richard Waxberg and Satish Telegar.  $990 for college students; $1,490 for adults.  For an online brochure, click here.  For further information contact: Richard Waxberg, Director of the Krishnamurti Summer Study Intensive & Retreat Programs: 805.640.0532 or richardwaxberg@kfa.org

July 18th - July 26th
The Ending of Time: An Immersion into Human Consciousness and What it Means to Bring About an End to Psychological Time
A nine-day residential dialogue program based on Krishnamurti’s book, The Ending of Time, which features a series of dialogues between Krishnamurti and physicist David Bohm.  Facilitated by Richard Waxberg and Satish Telegar.  This is a fascinating journey into the meeting of two great minds of the 20th Century.  $990 for college students; $1,490 for adults. For an online brochure, click here
For further information contact: Richard Waxberg, Director of the Krishnamurti Summer Study Intensive & Retreat Programs: 805.640.0532 or richardwaxberg@kfa.org

July 26th - August 8th
Summer Teaching Academy
Teacher's Academy Facilitators Hesli & GopalA fourteen-day program that explores Krishnamurti’s vision of education.  The program is coordinated by two former teachers at Oak Grove School, Gopal Krishnamurthy and Karen Hesli.  Fees Include two weeks’ stay and all meals, at the Oak Grove Retreat. For more information, click here. Or contact Academy Coordinator Gopal Krishnamurthy at (805) 462-7360. To email him, click here

 

For all these programs, more information is available at the KFA website, www.kfa.org.

 

 

 

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A note about the Daily Quote service
This is now available through the new International Teachings website, at www.jkrishnamurti.com.  You can peruse all of Krishnamurti's work available in text form, and searchable by key word, date, or topic, as well as download select video and audio - all for free!  Sign up there for the Daily Quote service, which is now managed through this website. 

 

We extend our heartfelt thanks to all the donors who have made the creation of this website possible, so its content can be shared all over the world wherever there is internet access. 

 

Continuing support is needed to expand the audio/video collection and to maintain the site.  You can contribute to this project by visiting the website.

Bookmark www.jkrishnamurti.com and visit frequently. Your feedback will be part of the continuing evolution of the site as it expands in reach and content.

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CALENDAR OF EVENTS
For further information on any program, please call Craig Walker at (805) 646-2390 or email him at craig@kfa.org.

 

Krishnamurti Library
Open Thursday through Sunday, 1 to 5pm
1098 McAndrew Road, Ojai, CA 93023 (directions and map)
Phone: (805) 646-2390

 

June 6th through June 27th
Saturday evenings from 7 to 9

Krishnamurti Dialogue Series: Spontaneity - is it possible to have a spontaneous and meaningful dialogue?
Can we be looking inside and relating outside at the same time, both sharing with others and learning inwardly?
John Duncan will host a series of four weekly dialogue meetings on Saturday evenings, June 6 - 27, from 7 pm to 9 pm. Donation: $7 per meeting. 

Location: Krishnamurti Education Center, 1098 McAndrew Road, Ojai. 

Call 805-646-2390, or visit www.kfa.org

The Awakening of Intelligence and the Birth of Insight  
A nine-day residential dialogue program for college students and adults.  Facilitated by Richard Waxberg and Satish Telegar.  $990 for college students; $1,490 for adults.  For an online brochure, click here.  For further information contact: Richard Waxberg, Director of the Krishnamurti Summer Study Intensive & Retreat Programs: 805.640.0532 or richardwaxberg@kfa.org

July 18th - July 26th
The Ending of Time: An Immersion into Human Consciousness and What it Means to Bring About an End to Psychological Time
A nine-day residential dialogue program based on Krishnamurti’s book, The Ending of Time, which features a series of dialogues between Krishnamurti and physicist David Bohm.  Facilitated by Richard Waxberg and Satish Telegar.  This is a fascinating journey into the meeting of two great minds of the 20th Century.  $990 for college students; $1,490 for adults. For an online brochure, click here
For further information contact: Richard Waxberg, Director of the Krishnamurti Summer Study Intensive & Retreat Programs: 805.640.0532 or richardwaxberg@kfa.org

July 26th - August 8th
Summer Teaching Academy
A fourteen-day program that explores Krishnamurti’s vision of education.  The program is coordinated by two former teachers at Oak Grove School, Gopal Krishnamurthy and Karen Hesli.  Fees Include two weeks’ stay and all meals, at the Oak Grove Retreat. For more information, click here. Or contact Academy Coordinator Gopal Krishnamurthy at (805) 462-7360. To email him, click here


October 9th, 10th, 11th

SAVE THE DATE

There will be an October Dialogue Retreat this fall.

Check the website a bit later on for more information, at www.kfa.org.

 

Questions about programs? Please call Krishnamurti Education Center Director Craig Walker at 805-646-2390 or email craig@kfa.org.

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CONTRIBUTING

 

A non-profit organization relies on contributions to close their funding gap.  The KFA is no different.  Each year it reaches out to inform its donors, readers, friends and acquaintances of our need to address the funding gap.  Your contributions enable our programs to go forward and enable Krishnamurti's pioneering work to be shared in many different ways.  If you haven't given yet, we would immensely appreciate a gift in any amount.

 

Our grateful thanks to everyone who has made donations to the Krishnamurti Foundation and/or Oak Grove School. Going forward, help is still needed to support the three main pillars of the Foundation – Krishnamurti Publications (responsible for all dissemination, digitization, and the new website for free access to the teachings); the new Krishnamurti Education Center (home for our retreat facilities, programs, and the Krishnamurti Archives); and Oak Grove School (founded by Krishnamurti, providing a caring community for pre-K through grade 12 students, fostering mindfulness, understanding, and awareness of self, others, and the world).

 

To make a donation, click here.

 

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